4957. From all this it may be seen that all the things the Lord spoke about held matters of Divine concern within them, though it seems to people whose interests are entirely worldly, and especially to those whose interests are bodily ones, that He spoke about the same kinds of things as anyone else might have spoken. Indeed those immersed in bodily interests will say of these and all other words spoken by the Lord that they are no more full of grace and therefore do not carry any more weight than the sermons and preaching of those in our own day and age who, because of their learning, are excellent speakers. But in fact their sermons and preaching are like the shell and husk when compared with the kernel inside them.